[newbie] Writing to floppy disc

Andrew Barnes newbie@vlug.org
Mon, 10 May 2004 19:29:24 -0700


=======================
The response was a lot of information about options for mounting
=======================

If you got information about options, the command syntax isn't correct.  

However I've checked and confirmed the syntax I've supplied is correct so
I'm led to believe you might have mistyped the command.

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> What does the contents of /etc/fstab show?

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 443 May 4 02:42 /etc/fstab
=======================

Thanks, but that is the file information not the contents.  
/etc/fstab lists the mapping from device name to mount point and some other
options that aren't important to this issue.  To view the contents of a file
in a shell, use:

cat [/where/the/file/is]

Ex:
cat /etc/fstab

The output should be 5 or so columns, 5 or 6 rows of information.


-----Original Message-----
From: newbie-admin@vlug.org [mailto:newbie-admin@vlug.org] On Behalf Of
Bryan
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 10:39 AM
To: newbie@vlug.org
Subject: RE: [newbie] Writing to floppy disc

Hi Andrew,

On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 18:13, Andrew Barnes wrote:
> To get root privileges, you can use su or sudo.  
> sudo is meant (as I understand) to run a limited set of commands as a
> different user, typically root.  On the other hand, su will let you switch
> users without logging out and back in.
> 
> For mounting the floppy, try:
> mount -t vfat /mnt/floppy
> 
The response was a lot of information about optons for mounting

> What does the contents of /etc/fstab show?

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 443 May 4 02:42 /etc/fstab
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: newbie-admin@vlug.org [mailto:newbie-admin@vlug.org] On Behalf Of
> Bryan
> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 5:29 PM
> To: newbie@vlug.org
> Subject: RE: [newbie] Writing to floppy disc
> 
> In a shell I don't know how to get root priveleges
> 
> On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 17:00, Andrew Barnes wrote:
> > =======================
> > When I tried this the response was "cp: cannot stat
> '/mnt/floppy/test.doc':
> > No medium found". I had a formatted floppy in the drive though.
> > =======================
> > 
> > Try mounting the floppy drive before using the copy/cp command:
> > 
> > mount /mnt/floppy
> > 
> > response is "mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on
> /mnt/floppy
> >mount failed"
> 
> > ...which is odd - times when I didn't mount the drive first, it would
say
> > that the drive isn't mounted.
> > 
> > Don't forget to unmount the drive once you are done using:
> > 
> > umount /mnt/floppy
> > 
> > =======================
> > Could you please let me know how to make the "pipe" symbol on a standard
> key
> > board?
> > =======================
> > 
> > Sure - look to the Enter key, and then move one key up to see a key that
> has
> > "\" on it.  The key with the slash will show either a solid vertical
line,
> > but some show two small vertical lines - it's pipe all the same, you
just
> > hold the shift key and press the \ key to get pipe.
> > 
> > =======================
> > I tried but the response was "cmod: changing permissions of
'/mnt/floppy':
> > Invalid argument"
> > =======================
> > 
> > My initial thought is that you fell victim to a typo - I don't remember
> > having to set a flag for chmod to recognize characters vs. numbers for
> > setting permissions.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: newbie-admin@vlug.org [mailto:newbie-admin@vlug.org] On Behalf Of
> > Bryan
> > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 4:22 PM
> > To: newbie@vlug.org
> > Subject: RE: [newbie] Writing to floppy disc
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks Andrew,
> > 
> > I don't know where I'm going wrong here.
> > 
> > On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 19:06, Andrew Barnes wrote:
> > > Numerous bad GUI experiences led me to get more comfortable with the
> > command
> > > line - the nice part to this is that it doesn't matter what
> > > version/distro/etc this is done on.  
> > > 
> > > >From a command shell/terminal window you can run:
> > > 
> > > cp [/where/the/file/is] /mnt/floppy
> > > When I tried this the response was "cp: cannot stat
> > '/mnt/floppy/test.doc': No medium found" 
> > > I had a formatted floppy in the drive though.
> > >
> > > If you want to move the file to the floppy:
> > > 
> > > mv [/where/the/file/is] /mnt/floppy
> > > 
> > > If you get a response that your account doesn't have privilege(s) to
do
> > this
> > > (and you know the root password), you can use the sudo command rather
> than
> > > logging in as root.
> > > 
> > > ===================================
> > > How to check and deal with permissions from Command Line:
> > > cd /mnt ; ls -l | grep floppy
> > 
> > > Could you please let me know how to make the "pipe" symbol on a
standard
> > key board?
> > 
> > > That will show the permissions for /mnt/floppy - it should start with
d
> > (for
> > > directory, because it is), or there's problems.  The letters after
that
> > show
> > > what permissions ([r]ead, [w]rite, e[x]ecute)) there are per user,
group
> > and
> > > world/other.  So it'd look something like: "drwxrwx---".
> > > 
> > > To change the permissions, you can use chmod.  Here's an example:
> > > 
> > > chmod ugo+rwx /mnt/floppy
> > >
> > > I tried but the response was "cmod: changing permissions of
> '/mnt/floppy':
> > Invalid argument"
> > >
> > > ...of full privileges to /mnt/floppy.  Not the best thing to do,
giving
> > full
> > > permissions to something.  So you can choose specifically using:
> > > 
> > > chmod u+rwx /mnt/floppy
> > > 
> > > This will add read/write/execute privs to User - the other priv's to
> group
> > > and world/other are left as they were.  What if you only wanted to
give
> > read
> > > and write priv?
> > > 
> > > chmod u+rw /mnt/floppy
> > > 
> > > You can replace the "+" with a "-" to remove privileges. 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: newbie-admin@vlug.org [mailto:newbie-admin@vlug.org] On Behalf
Of
> > John
> > > Bartlett
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 4:22 PM
> > > To: newbie@vlug.org
> > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Writing to floppy disc
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 11:20, Bryan wrote:
> > > > I am using Mandrake 9.2 and KDE. I can't figure out how to copy or
> save
> > > > files to /mnt/floppy. I am able to format a floppy disc though.
> > > > 
> > > > There is a small padlock symbol on the desktop icon for the floppy
> drive
> > > > and the screen for setting permissions under Properties is greyed
out
> -
> > > > not accessible. But, I notice the box for writing is blank.
> > > > 
> > > > Can anyone telll me how to save or copy to the floppy disc? Change
the
> > > > necessary permissions?
> > > 
> > > Hi Bryan,
> > > 
> > > I delayed responding for a while as I am a newbie too and cannot even
> > > format a floppy using RedHat 9.
> > > 
> > > I do know however that if you open KDE or Nautilus from a command
screen
> > > as root, you should lose the padlock and be able to copy to the disc.
I
> > > don't think there is any way to change to root from within a user KDE
> > > screen.
> > > 
> > > I probably got some of that wrong but that should ensure that someone
> > > really knowledgeable will put us both right!
> > > 
> > > How often are you tempted to go back to the dark side?
> > > 
> > > John
> > > 
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