[Discuss] the state of VLUG meetings at present

Rajiv Khaneja rajivk at sparklit.com
Wed Oct 10 18:21:23 PDT 2007


Well, I've never actually attended a VLUG meeting but 6-8 people seems
atrocious  Personally, I don't want to attend a LUG meeting to view a
presentation unless it is very high quality.  Perhaps the solution is not
more presentations but  fewer yet higher quality presentations.  Find other
activities to schedule when presentations aren't available.  A structured
formal Q&A of the "experts" might be a good idea.

Another idea might be to invite businesses to participate.  Many businesses
(including my own) use Linux in interesting ways and I'm sure an invitation
to discuss their Linux implementations would be well received.  Personally,
I'd love to expose my business to bunch of Linux professionals.

I definitely agree with the point 4 (welcoming people).  Attending a club
should feel welcoming.  We don't want people to feel like outsiders at a
party they weren't invited to. Making sure people have a good time is
probably the most important thing of all.  If people have fun they will
return if they feel like an outsider they won't!


On 10/10/07, Larry Gagnon <lggagnon at uniserve.com> wrote:
>
> My comments below are in no way meant to denigrate anyone, least of all
> any club member or club officer, they are simply observations with some
> possible suggestions about what we might do to improve the situation, and
> of course, I throw this out to the discuss-list for some ideas and
> discussion, so that together, we can maybe improve our meetings. If anyone
> disagrees with my observations or suggested ideas please don't hesitate to
> say so! If you want to do this in private call me (382-1266).
>
> I have been a member of VLUG for about 3 years now, and I enjoy going to
> the meetings to learn and discuss and (sometimes) to contribute where I am
> able. Over that period of time though I have noted the following:
>
> 1) a distinct drop in attendance from about 25-30 members and guests to
> now often less than 6-8 people
> 2) a distinct lack of effort to prepare for or arrange presentations
> 3) presentations (not so bad recently) which were pitched way above the
> heads of obvious newcomers/ newbies and/or poorly presented, often without
> even a proper introduction
> 4) sometimes a lack of welcoming "discussion" or club information for
> newcomers
> 5) a distinct lack of attention payed to the presenter and his or her
> presentation by a small element of attendees.
>
> OK. Now I've said it, and I don't really think any of my observations
> above are way off the mark. So in doing so I have these suggestions below.
> How we might implement them is something altogether different but I
> thought I would start this now because our AGM is coming up next month and
> perhaps we can discuss these points further at the AGM and prior to it on
> this list.
>
> 1) Attendance drop:
> - advertise VLUG (which is not presently happening)
> - make newcomers more welcome and provide interesting, consistent
> presentations
> -
> 2) Lack of Presenters:
> - possibly two members to work on finding people for each month
> - set every third month as a free-for-all discussion and/or install-fest,
> not requiring a formal presentation - but have a definite moderator, who
> leads the evening
> - canvas places where people may be using Linux for interesting work (eg
> Hertzberg Institute of Astrophysics) to give presentations that may not
> necessarily be fully Linux related
> -
> 3) Poor Quality Presentations:
> - have a presentation by an expert on how to give presentations!
> - a moderator at each meeting intervenes if presenter is "loosing hs
> audience"
> - all members to get a demo on how to use the projection system
> - projection and wifi system prepared beforehand and working prior to 7PM
> -
> 4) Lack of Welcoming
> - formalize the meetings so that we don't look like a ragtag bag of geeks
> - prepare a newbie pamphlet (already done in the past??)
> - re-instigate the raffle of Linux text books ?
> - 2-3 members designated to welcome newcomers, find out their interests,
> experience, etc.
>
> 5) Lack of Attention to Presenter
> - not much to say about this. It is rude, but it is also a free world!
> - I guess having more and higher quality presentations might be a solution
>
>
> Comments and discussion and ideas greatly appreciated.
>
> Larry Gagnon
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