[Discuss] Questions

John Blomfield jabfield at shaw.ca
Sun Nov 4 09:35:56 PST 2007


Murray Strome wrote:
> Andrew Willard wrote:
>> Steven Kurylo wrote:
>>>>  I am a bit surprised that, unlike Windows, Ubuntu does not show
>>>> all networks within range.
>>>
>>> My Ubuntu machine does show the networks in range.  The networkmanager
>>> applet in the top right hand corner lists several.  When I click on it
>>> it lists all the networks and then "Connect to other...", "Create
>>> New....", and "Manual configuration".
>>
>> Even on a kubuntu box, as Murray asked about, it will show the same 
>> thing... on the
>> KDE Panel there will be a little 'strength bar' icon. If you click 
>> your mouse
>> pointer on this icon you will see a list of wired and wireless 
>> devices. Under wireless
>> you should see ALL wireless access points currently being detected by 
>> your laptop.
>> The application is called KNetworkManager if you have not already 
>> installed it Murray.
> OK, there is no networkmanager applet that I can see anywhere. 
> According to ps -e, knetworkmanager is running. I tried killing it and 
> restarting it by:
>
> sudo knetworkmanager &
>
> in a terminal.  Again, in the list generated by ps -e, it appears to 
> be running.  Are there some parameters I am missing for it to work 
> properly?
>
> Murray
>
Sorry for the terse response earlier but I was making breakfast!  What I 
should have said (did you see my response of yesterday?) was that you 
must make sure the NetworkManager service is installed and switched on 
otherwise knetworkmanager won't work.  NetworkManager needs a password 
setup before it will operate and it will prompt you to choose one (this 
is not the same as the root password although it could be - but is not 
secure practice).  Under Gnome the password is stored in 'keyring' 
password manager but under KDE, knetworkmanager uses kwallet.  I am not 
sure but NetworkManager probably depends also on wireless-tools so these 
need to be installed.  I guess you can start all these services and apps 
from the command line but that kind of defeats the object of the 
exercise.  If they are properly installed NetworkManager should appear 
in your configuration for "services" GUI, see your system menu.  Set it 
to start during boot and it will popup a request for password dialog 
once KDE has started.

John Blomfield

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